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AI Lending Risk: How Banks Earn Fees And Transfer Exposure

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AI lending has become a case study in how Wall Street's fee machine operates. In this episode, Felix Nikolas Prehn, a former investment banker, traces the mechanics of a five billion dollar loan arranged by Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan for AI chip company Volta Infrastructure. The banks collected fees but declined to hold most of the loan, placing 3.7 billion dollars on a best efforts basis for sale to pension funds and insurers. The loan carries an 11 per cent interest rate, well above the junk bond average of 8 per cent. Meanwhile Oracle's data centre debt is trading below face value, with bankruptcy insurance costs at levels not seen since 2009. Prehn notes that Goldman's own trading desk advised institutional clients to derisk from AI exposure in the same week its research analysts issued buy recommendations, illustrating how different parts of one institution serve different purposes within the transaction machine.

In this episode:
00:00 Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan refused to hold their own AI chip loan
03:03 How the bank fee machine works in plain terms
05:06 Risk transfer from banks to pension funds and insurers
09:40 Bank price targets on Meta, Micron and Nvidia
11:12 Price targets feed the transaction and fee cycle
12:44 Goldman traders tell institutional clients to derisk from AI
13:48 Volta Infrastructure loan structure and best efforts clause
15:48 Eleven per cent interest rate signals elevated risk

Sources mentioned:
Goldman Sachs, https://www.goldmansachs.com
JP Morgan, https://www.jpmorgan.com
Morgan Stanley, https://www.morganstanley.com
BNP Paribas, https://www.bnpparibas.com
Truist, https://www.truist.com
Cantor Fitzgerald, https://www.cantor.com
Oracle, https://www.oracle.com
Volta Infrastructure
Bitdeer, https://www.bitdeer.com
Anthropic, https://www.anthropic.com

Felix Nikolas Prehn is an economist and former investment banker. He co-founded TradeVision.io and founded Winston Daily and The Prehn Institute. The Prehn Institute gives no financial advice, and neither does this podcast.

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Author site: https://felixprehn.com

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